Word And Verse

Now I’m sick of hearing about Bentley - what’s worse is the company he hangs around…this “prophetic” bunch make me sick with their lies and deception.

Two UK pastors who went to the “revival” are on TV tonight for a live TV program - and I intend to e-mail in with my dissent regarding this nonsense, but I have had enough!!!

hey brother. Remember i said about you should not bring diversity into the body of christ. I fear now that the charismatic movement is bringing false unity where pure doctrine and commandments are compromised. This should not be happening.

A church member in response to my question on the church refusal to obey 1 Corithian 14 is that these commandments are subjected only by the corinthian church. City harvest need not follow these commandments. I dunno what to reply to him because my jaws literally dropped. I can only pray to god to help city harvest and end this dangerous charismatic movement.

Lee:
1. Even the Saints can be deceived. It isn’t enough to believe in Jesus - even demons know scriptural truths (James 2:19, Matt 4, Luke 4 etc) and would even wield God’s Word against Jesus himself. Victorious Christian living means that we need to be discerning regarding doctrines because they are all connected. Also, ‘repentance’ from CHC is suspect - I’ve had dealings with a young-in-faith CHC member who still don’t understand what repentance is… for her, it’s more apt to be renamed ‘regret’. Another longer-in-faith CHC member’s version of repentance is also to ‘pick and choose’; repentance about an action he did, but not repentant enough to deal with the consequences of that action. His repentance doesn’t necessarily mean a change in behaviour or a return to walking according to God’s Word, but a return to secular versions of ‘doing good’ while still maintaining a secularised version of a ’successful’ lifestyle - car, cash, women. Of course, 2 members out of thousands of congregants cannot point to a flaw in the church itself - but it is troubling that both these members claim to be rooted in CHC, participating in its cells, ministry and worship. They also sprout shaky doctrines, a lot of Christianese - all without understanding, and they both share that they are in close counselling with the church leaders.

2. Your point about tree and its fruit is correct. However, we need to be clear about form and reality. CHC may be active in creating a lot of social enterprises in serving the community. However, this isn’t a manifestation of ‘good’ fruit. This is form - this is what James calls ‘true religion’ (James 1:27). Fruit looks at the character, and it’s of a concern that CHC members are still associated with a focus on prosperity and blessings, that members appear to have very shallow understanding of God’s Words. How can you say that there isn’t a rotten fruit, but that the church allows it’s pulpit to be used by false prophets? Confusion would indicate something rotten.

3. Again, I revert to the point that not all CHC members should be coloured with the same brush. I do believe that there are members there who are genuinely seeking God and are walking right with Him. However, I think it would be difficult to walk right if the messages from the pulpit and the leaders are dodgy. Therefore, I’m actually quite happy that Isaiah here has a watchman ministry where these dodgy messages can be pointed out and CHC members seeking to know God’s Word deeper can have an avenue to find out for themselves what God has to say about what comes out of the CHC pulpit.

Finally, this personal account isn’t from CHC, but the other mega-Church: At a wedding dinner I attended, the Pastor who got up to say Grace for the meal prayed a dis-Grace-ful Grace. He first joked that the reason for our gathering was finally at hand - the dinner! He then prayed that the food we would be eating would have zero cholesterol, that the food would make the Aunties at the dinner young, that it would make the women younger and more beautiful, that it would even make the groom virile. It was utterly disgraceful because not only was the prayer unbiblical, the non-Christians at the dinner would think that we take our God with such frivolity, and that our focus was all wrong. Furthermore, it makes Christians sound stupid - does it mean that we’re free to eat cholesterol-laden food, but we won’t suffer from the cholesterol just because we prayed that? That God gave us wisdom, but we exercise faith to overcome wisdom??? And instead of celebrating love, the coming together of 2 believers in the faith, we celebrate the food instead? *sighs* Sometimes, I fear that the prosperity-name-and-claim-gospel goes too far and cause people to stumble without even knowing that they stumble.

Indeed, Isaiah, our table of friends suddenly found it hard to enjoy the food. (And don’t even get me started on the way the church wedding was handled! )

Release that mighty holy goat???! My, oh, my, how frightening. Out of the heart the mouth speaketh?

Thank God for Youtube, eh? It’s really been interesting to go back and watch these wild stories early on and realize that it was mostly all hyped in the first place.

The Big Boys knew early on that there was money to be made by hitching their wagons to Bent Oddly. What a ridiculous story Che Ahn tells. And oh, Bill Johnson paid for all these “Apostles” to stay at a 5 Star Resort in Kauai? What the? Where does the average Pastor Dude come up with the dough to pay for something like that? I know…

One more gripe, Che Ahn tells the Bent one, “I must decrease, you must increase?” What? He is John the Baptist and Bentley is Jesus Christ?

UNBELIEVABLE!

This is frightful! How could CHC not do a proper background check and discern in the Spirit before bringing in such quack preachers?

I checked out Todd Bentley which Che Ahn is closely related to and the youtube videos are so salah.

It clearly shows demonic presence - esp Stacey Campbell who prophecieses at Todd’s revivals… she is scary! All that head shaking spells demonic possession…

How can anyone listen or watch them in action and still believe them???

Thank you for writing about these things.

I wish singaporeans in CHC would read up more and understand the blasphemy these guys are preaching. Not only does CHC invite Bentley, they also glamourize personalities like Benny Hinn (well known in the US for being theologically unsound). My heart breaks for friends in this church, who are taught that these tricksters are being ‘persecuted’ for being faithful! I pray that God opens their minds to being rational and look at the research out there on these dark characters.