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		<title>By: Isaiah</title>
		<link>http://wordnverse.com/2008/05/21/dearie-me-another-message-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href='#comment-3426' rel="nofollow"&gt;@lee&lt;/a&gt; -

Brother, I praise God for that!

Please know that we -- my brethren, sisters and I who warn so loudly -- don't do this for our own pride and to show that "we are right", but that the Christian Church today is so inundated with so much falsehood that there's a need for unpopular watchmen like us to cry out loud and warn, especially in these last days.

All glory goes to God, for only He can put the Truth into a man's heart and save him.

Soli deo Gloria!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-3426' rel="nofollow">@lee</a> -</p>
<p>Brother, I praise God for that!</p>
<p>Please know that we &#8212; my brethren, sisters and I who warn so loudly &#8212; don&#8217;t do this for our own pride and to show that &#8220;we are right&#8221;, but that the Christian Church today is so inundated with so much falsehood that there&#8217;s a need for unpopular watchmen like us to cry out loud and warn, especially in these last days.</p>
<p>All glory goes to God, for only He can put the Truth into a man&#8217;s heart and save him.</p>
<p>Soli deo Gloria!</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, thanks  for your message. Ekeziel 3 is indeed a good scripture to counter my argument. I have also come to realise that having false unity with brothers but giving up on true and pure doctrine should NOT be the way. We should not head backwards spiritually again after breaking free from roman catholicism, in the search for believing in the truth and pureness in doctrine, where many have been sacrificed.

I think i kinda like come to my senses liao. Thank GOD!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, thanks  for your message. Ekeziel 3 is indeed a good scripture to counter my argument. I have also come to realise that having false unity with brothers but giving up on true and pure doctrine should NOT be the way. We should not head backwards spiritually again after breaking free from roman catholicism, in the search for believing in the truth and pureness in doctrine, where many have been sacrificed.</p>
<p>I think i kinda like come to my senses liao. Thank GOD!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JPvB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPvB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href='#comment-296' rel="nofollow"&gt;@lee&lt;/a&gt; -

&lt;i&gt; This is a difficult issue. Criticism is a form of love, only if it is constructive. If a brother loses his faith, it will surely be a sin. Eg. the bible mention abt the eating of unclean food sacrificed to the idols. If your knowledge causes a brother to stumble, it is a sin, even though you are right in doctrine.  &lt;/i&gt;

Indeed it is a difficult issue and while, as you state care should be taken not to offend others in such a way that they fall from faith, there is also a different kind of care that should be taken:
Ezekiel 3: (it is a bit long, but well worth the reading, WEB translation)

&lt;i&gt; 16 It happened at the end of seven days, that the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 17 Son of man, I have made you a watchman to the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. 18 When I tell the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. 19 Yet if you warn the wicked, and he doesnâ€™t turn from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. 20 Again, when a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand. 21 Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man, that the righteous not sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning; and you have delivered your soul. &lt;/i&gt;

This in itself is a warning that applies especially to ezekiel, as he get a direct word from God. It does however also apply to us as we have "Mozes and the Prophets (see luke 16 below)" and therefore the Lord has spoken to us.
The whole trick is to reprimand (hmm word, "vermaan" is the one in my language) in love when a brother errs.



Luke 16
&lt;i&gt;25 â€œBut Abraham said, â€˜Son, remember that you, in your lifetime, received your good things, and Lazarus, in like manner, bad things. But now here he is comforted and you are in anguish. 26 Besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, that those who want to pass from here to you are not able, and that none may cross over from there to us.â€™
27 â€œHe said, â€˜I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my fatherâ€™s house; 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, so they wonâ€™t also come into this place of torment.â€™
29 â€œBut Abraham said to him, â€˜They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.â€™
30 â€œHe said, â€˜No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.â€™
31 â€œHe said to him, â€˜If they donâ€™t listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.â€™&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-296' rel="nofollow">@lee</a> -</p>
<p><i> This is a difficult issue. Criticism is a form of love, only if it is constructive. If a brother loses his faith, it will surely be a sin. Eg. the bible mention abt the eating of unclean food sacrificed to the idols. If your knowledge causes a brother to stumble, it is a sin, even though you are right in doctrine.  </i></p>
<p>Indeed it is a difficult issue and while, as you state care should be taken not to offend others in such a way that they fall from faith, there is also a different kind of care that should be taken:<br />
Ezekiel 3: (it is a bit long, but well worth the reading, WEB translation)</p>
<p><i> 16 It happened at the end of seven days, that the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 17 Son of man, I have made you a watchman to the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. 18 When I tell the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. 19 Yet if you warn the wicked, and he doesnâ€™t turn from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. 20 Again, when a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand. 21 Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man, that the righteous not sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning; and you have delivered your soul. </i></p>
<p>This in itself is a warning that applies especially to ezekiel, as he get a direct word from God. It does however also apply to us as we have &#8220;Mozes and the Prophets (see luke 16 below)&#8221; and therefore the Lord has spoken to us.<br />
The whole trick is to reprimand (hmm word, &#8220;vermaan&#8221; is the one in my language) in love when a brother errs.</p>
<p>Luke 16<br />
<i>25 â€œBut Abraham said, â€˜Son, remember that you, in your lifetime, received your good things, and Lazarus, in like manner, bad things. But now here he is comforted and you are in anguish. 26 Besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, that those who want to pass from here to you are not able, and that none may cross over from there to us.â€™<br />
27 â€œHe said, â€˜I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my fatherâ€™s house; 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, so they wonâ€™t also come into this place of torment.â€™<br />
29 â€œBut Abraham said to him, â€˜They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.â€™<br />
30 â€œHe said, â€˜No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.â€™<br />
31 â€œHe said to him, â€˜If they donâ€™t listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.â€™</i></p>
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		<title>By: Isaiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for visiting and sharing your thoughts on this issue, Koalabear. Indeed it will and it has! I've come across one and written about it &lt;a href="http://wordnverse.com/2008/05/30/a-christian-who-is-strongly-deluded-by-the-prosperity-gospel/" title="A Christian Who Is Strongly Deluded by the Prosperity Gospel" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for visiting and sharing your thoughts on this issue, Koalabear. Indeed it will and it has! I&#8217;ve come across one and written about it <a href="http://wordnverse.com/2008/05/30/a-christian-who-is-strongly-deluded-by-the-prosperity-gospel/"  title="A Christian Who Is Strongly Deluded by the Prosperity Gospel" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Koalabear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koalabear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prosperity gospel that city harvest and new creation preaches are completely blasphemous and will only serve to lead more and more people away from the tradition and history of the christian church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prosperity gospel that city harvest and new creation preaches are completely blasphemous and will only serve to lead more and more people away from the tradition and history of the christian church.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denise:

It took me a while too, and I think it's an issue that most Christians need to come to realize before their "loyalty" blinds them to the truth in God's Word. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise:</p>
<p>It took me a while too, and I think it&#8217;s an issue that most Christians need to come to realize before their &#8220;loyalty&#8221; blinds them to the truth in God&#8217;s Word. <img src='http://wordnverse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Isaiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent:

I checked out the website of the church and I just might pay a visit one day. Thanks for the invite!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent:</p>
<p>I checked out the website of the church and I just might pay a visit one day. Thanks for the invite!  <img src='http://wordnverse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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