Comments on: Overheard At CHC http://wordnverse.com/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/ Glorifying Christ; Edifying and Warning the Flock Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-RC1 hourly 1 By: Rand http://wordnverse.com/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/comment-page-1/#comment-6205 Rand Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:12:28 +0000 http://www.sicarii.net/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/#comment-6205 Wow Isaiah, you write well, and very convincingly. You mentioned, the Greek Word for tongues is glossa. So, just out of curiosity, you heard the language during Paul's time? You knew how it sounded? If, and most probably not, how would you know then that you have been hearing Gibberish at many CHC services? You seem to contradict yourself. "By faith you shall receive". You seem to have a strong followership. Probably because of your convincing write-ups and your ability to turn things people say to suit your arguments or cases in point. Your write-ups seem to be that of a lawyer's case. Do you happen to be a lawyer by occupation? Maybe you can try holding a gathering of discussion. I believe many people will come and join you. Such is your ability to win souls. Wow Isaiah, you write well, and very convincingly.

You mentioned, the Greek Word for tongues is glossa. So, just out of curiosity, you heard the language during Paul’s time? You knew how it sounded? If, and most probably not, how would you know then that you have been hearing Gibberish at many CHC services? You seem to contradict yourself. “By faith you shall receive”.

You seem to have a strong followership. Probably because of your convincing write-ups and your ability to turn things people say to suit your arguments or cases in point. Your write-ups seem to be that of a lawyer’s case. Do you happen to be a lawyer by occupation? Maybe you can try holding a gathering of discussion. I believe many people will come and join you. Such is your ability to win souls.

]]> By: Isaiah http://wordnverse.com/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/comment-page-1/#comment-5764 Isaiah Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:34:05 +0000 http://www.sicarii.net/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/#comment-5764 Yuliana: Thank you for dropping by and sharing your thoughts. You asked if I had read 1 Corinthians 14 properly in its entirety, then cherry-picked two verses on tongues. Might I suggest that perhaps you should read 1 Corinthians 14 in context instead? Would you like to explain what Paul said about interpretation of tongues and orderly worship? Moreover, the Greek word for tongues is <em>glossa</em> -- the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations (<a href="http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1100&t=kjv" title="source" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Source</a>), and not the gibberish heard at many CHC services. Yuliana:

Thank you for dropping by and sharing your thoughts.

You asked if I had read 1 Corinthians 14 properly in its entirety, then cherry-picked two verses on tongues. Might I suggest that perhaps you should read 1 Corinthians 14 in context instead?

Would you like to explain what Paul said about interpretation of tongues and orderly worship? Moreover, the Greek word for tongues is glossa — the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations (Source), and not the gibberish heard at many CHC services.

]]> By: yuliana http://wordnverse.com/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/comment-page-1/#comment-5763 yuliana Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:57:38 +0000 http://www.sicarii.net/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/#comment-5763 Hello Isaiah. Happened to read your post. I think being a Christian is all about striking a balance. Maybe you didnt read properly the entire 1 Cor 14. Take a look at this.. =) 1 Corinthians 14:5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification. 1 Corinthians 14:18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; I think what Paul meant is that we should pray in tongues more. (that also means in church.) So during prayer meetings, we should also pray in understanding for edification of the church. :) What do you think? Hello Isaiah. Happened to read your post. I think being a Christian is all about striking a balance. Maybe you didnt read properly the entire 1 Cor 14. Take a look at this.. =)

1 Corinthians 14:5
I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

1 Corinthians 14:18
I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;

I think what Paul meant is that we should pray in tongues more. (that also means in church.) So during prayer meetings, we should also pray in understanding for edification of the church. :)

What do you think?

]]> By: Joel Tapia http://wordnverse.com/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/comment-page-1/#comment-5327 Joel Tapia Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:57:35 +0000 http://www.sicarii.net/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/#comment-5327 Speaking in tongues is definitely a God-given supernatural event. On the day of Pentecost, remember who was there and how they all spoke with tongues. The languages they spoke may have been understood by others but surely was not understood by those speaking. So therefore, the speakers' understanding was unfruitful yet in the spirit they were being edified. Don't knock the experience if you don't understand it or feel rejected by the fact that it hasn't happened to you. Most people try to rationalize why things are ok with them and wrong with others--thus, it feels better to try and explain why speaking in tongues is inappropriate for today if you don't experience it. And in regards to edification of the church, ask yourself if people are being edified when they speak in tongues together. You will realize that even though people are speaking in tongues at the same time, the event is actually a lot of people having personal prayer together. Even if you had one message interpreted, that doesn't guarantee that unbelievers will believe the message. Hey, people flat out rejected Jesus' words in their own language right? Speaking in tongues, where human languages or what some describe as gibberish are spoken as the Spirit gives the utterance, always edifies the person speaking--doesn't matter if they are alone or having a personal prayer in a group--and God approves of it (a lot of people spoke in tongues together on the day of Pentecost at the same time...hmmmm). Don't be weak--don't over rationalize. I challenge you to ask God to fill you with his supernatural power, not the way you want it, or the way other Christians today may have described it, but the way the disciples experienced it on the day of Pentecost. Speaking in tongues is definitely a God-given supernatural event. On the day of Pentecost, remember who was there and how they all spoke with tongues. The languages they spoke may have been understood by others but surely was not understood by those speaking. So therefore, the speakers’ understanding was unfruitful yet in the spirit they were being edified. Don’t knock the experience if you don’t understand it or feel rejected by the fact that it hasn’t happened to you. Most people try to rationalize why things are ok with them and wrong with others–thus, it feels better to try and explain why speaking in tongues is inappropriate for today if you don’t experience it. And in regards to edification of the church, ask yourself if people are being edified when they speak in tongues together. You will realize that even though people are speaking in tongues at the same time, the event is actually a lot of people having personal prayer together. Even if you had one message interpreted, that doesn’t guarantee that unbelievers will believe the message. Hey, people flat out rejected Jesus’ words in their own language right? Speaking in tongues, where human languages or what some describe as gibberish are spoken as the Spirit gives the utterance, always edifies the person speaking–doesn’t matter if they are alone or having a personal prayer in a group–and God approves of it (a lot of people spoke in tongues together on the day of Pentecost at the same time…hmmmm). Don’t be weak–don’t over rationalize. I challenge you to ask God to fill you with his supernatural power, not the way you want it, or the way other Christians today may have described it, but the way the disciples experienced it on the day of Pentecost.

]]> By: zyx http://wordnverse.com/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/comment-page-1/#comment-3289 zyx Tue, 20 May 2008 12:24:44 +0000 http://www.sicarii.net/2008/04/30/overheard-at-chc/#comment-3289 My pastor has taught about speaking in tongues too, but sometimes when I'm in the congregation I feel really squirmy about it and all.. I'm so confused =/ Then again we are told to discern spiritual maturity by the fruits of the Holy Spirit i.e love, patience etc, and all that is in place. So I just can't figure it out @@ My pastor has taught about speaking in tongues too, but sometimes when I’m in the congregation I feel really squirmy about it and all.. I’m so confused =/ Then again we are told to discern spiritual maturity by the fruits of the Holy Spirit i.e love, patience etc, and all that is in place. So I just can’t figure it out @@

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