Doug Pagitt1 just cracks me up!
Yet it’s sad at the same time that this is what leaders of the Emergent Church movement are telling their congregations and non-believers who might be genuinely interested in Christianity.
In this phone interview that was broadcast on Way of the Master Radio, listen to Doug Pagitt totally deny the existence of hell, or even judgment for those that deny the Lord Jesus Christ.
Enjoyed part 1? Listen to part 2 of the interview at YouTube.
I’m aghast and flabbergasted that there are people who buy into this absolute filth and nonsense!
If you have never come across the terms “Emergent Church” or “Emerging Church” movement, here’s a great feature done by PBS that explains what the movement is all about.
Indeed, we have already been well warned of such heresies and apostasies in the Bible. Paul wrote twice in 2 Timothy about this:
For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
2 Timothy 3:2-5
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
Shalom Aleichem.
1 Pagitt, Doug. Interview with Todd Friel. The Way of the Master Radio.
Tags: Apostasy, Doug Pagitt, Emerging Church Movement, Humor, Interview, PBS, Radio, YouTube
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To be honest, at the outset I didn’t know whether to laugh or be angry at his inept and clumsy attempts at wriggling out of giving straight Biblical answers to the questions asked.
I ended up being disgusted.
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I think he did a terrible job. He was unprepared, not confident, unmotivated and in defense mode the entire time. Not a very good spokesman for the movement.
I can’t speak for either side and wouldn’t profess to. In defense of Tod Friel getting to heaven is very important. In defense of Doug Pagitt, “getting to heaven” is not what this life is all about. I think that this life is all about learning to live in the presence of God. While we are here, we should be living in (setting an example)and professing the Kingdom of God.
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I love Todd Friel! I would be thrilled to shake his hand. I love good journalism where the interviewee isn’t allowed to wriggle out of being straight about his opinion. I haven’t been sure about the whole “emergent” thing but have had a problem with the title “emerging church” like the rest of us are on the road to redundancy! Wow. Sounds an awful lot like existentialism and post modernism have greater influences in the ‘emergent’ world than real christianity and truth do. I don’t mind the search, but not at the cost of God’s word.
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I agree with you that “getting to heaven” is not all what this life is about, Mike, but the problem is that Doug Pagitt not even telling it straight like it is with regards to existence of heaven and hell, and he skirts the question completely.
Moreover, he doesn’t seem to think that God will judge those who are without Christ. It’s very clear from the Bible that those who die without Christ Jesus as their personal savior will be cut off from God and be banished to hell.
In other words, he seems to be preaching another Gospel.
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It’s actually not that new, Rachel. Even during Paul’s time, there were the Gnostics who were corrupting God’s word and preaching another Gospel.
I agree with you. Todd Friel sounds like a good interviewer. I’ve been listening to a few of their radio shows since, and it’s all pretty good. I also like the one he did on Joel Osteen.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. He should have come out and stated that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and nobody gets to the Father except through him. That’s really a no brainer.
I can’t sit and here and say what was going on in his brain at the time, but I can say that as a spokesperson for the emerging movement, he did not do them any justice whatsoever.
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Rachel ~ cool. I get to talk to you here too. You’re everywhere!!
“I don’t mind the search, but not at the cost of God’s word.”
I am standing and applauding this because this is where I live…in God’s word but always searching for deeper meaning and how I can apply it to my life.
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Twas ever thus!
I have not gone through their comments. Suffice to say these movements are always on the go. The difficulty for the Christian is to live the life they way it should be lived! That way the world is changed.I prefer arguing against what they say as it is often much easier than loving your neighbour!
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“The difficulty for the Christian is to live the life they way it should be lived! That way the world is changed.”
Wise words indeed, Adullamite!
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